Episodes

Wednesday Jan 15, 2020
Human Origins Part 2 (Did Neanderthals Go to Heaven?)
Wednesday Jan 15, 2020
Wednesday Jan 15, 2020
Episode 21
Our Human Origins miniseries keeps rolling as we explore the implications of art, social structures, and burials among Neanderthals and early Homo Sapiens in the Stone Age (specifically about 65,000 BCE to 10,000 BCE). How much can we infer from the clues they left behind? What of the small idols that predate all known religions by 15,000 years? Was God speaking to early humans like God speaks today? Are we making too much out of too little? Why does spirituality always seem to pop up whenever humans are around?
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Show Notes
Cave Paintings
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2018/02/neanderthals-cave-art-humans-evolution-science/
Cave Burials
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/12/131216-la-chapelle-neanderthal-burials-graves/
Venus Figures
http://www.visual-arts-cork.com/prehistoric/venus-of-berekhat-ram.htm
https://www.ancient.eu/Venus_Figurine/
Honey Bee Dance “the Waggle”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU_KD1enR3Q
Hominids
Overview of human evolution
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species
Neanderthals
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/who-were-the-neanderthals.html
Denisovan
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2018/08/news-denisovan-neanderthal-hominin-hybrid-ancient-human/ [first generation offspring of Denisovan and Neanderthal; tiny pinky bone fragment]
https://leakeyfoundation.org/origin-stories-the-denisovans/ [podcast which was referenced]
Homo Sapiens
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/human-fossils/species/homo-sapiens
Giant fauna
Sloth for Kendra to curl up into : https://www.livescience.com/56762-giant-ground-sloth.html
Marsupials with large pouches :
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160208-the-lost-giants-that-prowled-the-australian-wilderness
They went extinct :
https://daily.jstor.org/what-really-happened-to-the-megafauna/
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/04/in-a-few-centuries-cows-could-be-the-largest-land-animals-left/558323/
Read more : https://www.americanscientist.org/article/what-became-of-the-megafauna
Religious pieces
Rachel sitting on idols : https://www.sefaria.org/Genesis.31.34?lang=bi&with=all&lang2=en
What is religiousity : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity
Spiritual / religious : https://chopra.com/articles/religion-vs-spirituality-what-is-the-difference
“Sapiens” by Yuval Harari book : https://www.ynharari.com/book/sapiens/

Wednesday Jan 08, 2020
Human Origins Part 1 with Briana Pobiner (Big Questions and Little Bones)
Wednesday Jan 08, 2020
Wednesday Jan 08, 2020
Episode 20
This week, we welcome paleoanthropologist Dr Briana Pobiner as we begin to explore our own evolution. Dr Pobiner is the head of education and outreach for the Smithsonian Natural History Museum's Human Origins Program. We talk about how we know what we know about early humans, where we came from, what caused us to advance so quickly, and what that means for our self-identity today. If you're into saber-tooth cats, pumpkin spice crickets, and hope for humanity, then make sure you listen to this one!
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Show Notes
Dr Briana Pobiner's bio and publicationshttps://anthropology.columbian.gwu.edu/briana-l-pobiner
The "Teaching Evolution through Human Examples" (TEtHE) three-year exploratory research and development project was funded by National Science Foundation Discovery Research K-12 grant #1119468. The project has created four curriculum units for Advanced Placement (AP) Biology classes, aligned to the learning objectives, using human case studies to teach core evolutionary principles. The curriculum units are: (1) Adaptation to Altitude, (2) Malaria, (3) Evolution of Human Skin Color, and (4) What Does It Mean To Be Human?. The project has also created a CRS (Cultural and Religious Sensitivity) Teaching Strategies Resource to help teachers create a comfortable and supportive classroom environment for teaching evolution. http://humanorigins.si.edu/education/teaching-evolution-through-human-examples
The Expensive Tissue Hypothesishttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4312921/
Edible Insects and Human Evolution by Julie Lesnikhttps://amzn.to/2N4vN2k
Interview with Julie Lesnik on the amazing but somewhat NSFW podcast "Ologies"https://www.alieward.com/ologies/entomophagy-anthropology
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Wednesday Dec 11, 2019
Evolution Part 5 (Pie is the Answer)
Wednesday Dec 11, 2019
Wednesday Dec 11, 2019
Episode 19
Aright. So you understand the basics of evolution and you've found ways to harmonize that with your own faith and understanding. That's wonderful. Now, how are you going to communicate that to someone with a fundamentally different worldview? What is the point of communication if we can't escape our own echo chambers? Has technology made our echo chambers more echo-y? What can YOU do right now to make the world a more harmonious place? What is the best pie and why is it pumpkin pie?
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Show Notes
Astrophysics for Babies and others:
https://www.amazon.com/Astrophysics-Babies-University-Chris-Ferrie/dp/1492671134/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=astrophysics+for+babies&qid=1574362920&s=books&sr=1-3
Chris Ferrie (author of above) speaks at Google
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVomLTqOZYI
Echo Chambers and their issues
https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2017/dec/04/echo-chambers-are-dangerous-we-must-try-to-break-free-of-our-online-bubbles
http://theconversation.com/the-problem-of-living-inside-echo-chambers-110486
Nalini Nadkarni
https://www.aaas.org/membership/member-spotlight/doser-supports-scientists-who-connect-religious-communities

Wednesday Dec 04, 2019
Evolution Part 4 feat. Michael Zimmerman (We Don't Need No Education)
Wednesday Dec 04, 2019
Wednesday Dec 04, 2019
Episode 18
Dr Michael Zimmerman sits down with us to discuss some of the work he has been doing around religion and evolution for the past several decades as we look at some of the cases being decided today. how do we reclaim the authority of experts? Can/should we teach some form of intelligent design in public schools? What is at stake in this discussion?
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Show Notes
Clergy letter project, founded by Michael Zimmerman
https://www.theclergyletterproject.org/
Court Cases / Board of Education rules
1981 Arkansas: McLean vs. Board of Education
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4726786
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mclean-v-arkansas.html
2004 Wisconsin, Grantsburg
https://ncse.ngo/grantsburgs-third-try
2005 Pennsylvania, Dover vs Kitzmiller [teaching intelligent design as alternative]
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/21/education/judge-rejects-teaching-intelligent-design.html
1987 Louisiana; Edwards v. Aguillard [do not have to teach creationism in parallel to evolution]
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Edwards-v-Aguilard
2008 Louisiana; “Science education act”
http://www.legis.la.gov/Legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=503483&n=SB733%20Act%20473
2019 Ohio Science bill
https://www.cleveland.com/open/2019/11/ohio-lawmakers-clear-bill-allowing-students-to-turn-in-inaccurate-work-in-name-of-religion-second-anti-science-bill-in-a-week.html
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ohio-school-religion-answers/
Various states/years
https://www.pewforum.org/2009/02/04/fighting-over-darwin-state-by-state/
Definitions/People
Stephen Jay Gould
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/21/us/stephen-jay-gould-60-is-dead-enlivened-evolutionary-theory.html
Intelligent Design
https://intelligentdesign.org/whatisid/ [pro]
https://web.archive.org/web/20021113213410/http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2002/1106id2.shtml [against]
Irreducible Complexity
https://www.asa3.org/ASA/education/origins/ic-cr.htm [pro]
http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Suboptimal.cfm [against]
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2005/05/30/devolution-2 [against]
http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/design2/article.html [invoking the flagellum]
God of the gaps
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps
Ship of Theseus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

Wednesday Nov 27, 2019
Evolution Part 3 (In the Beginning)
Wednesday Nov 27, 2019
Wednesday Nov 27, 2019
Episode 17
Does accepting evolution mean that you can no longer believe in a personal God who is involved with the world? Are there ways to read evolution into the Bible? Did God really create everything? How do we even begin to have these conversations?
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Show Notes:
Movies
[Ian] The Dark Knight : https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0468569/
[Zack] Toy Story 2 : https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120363/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
[Adam] Star Trek Wrath of Khan: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084726/
[Kendra] Lion King 2 simba’s pride : https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120131/
[Rachael; broke the rules again] Raiders of the Ark : https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082971/
Definitions/People
Spectrum of creationists: https://ncse.ngo/creationevolution-continuum
Young Earth
https://answersingenesis.org/creationism/young-earth/young-earth-creationist-view-summarized-and-defended/ [pro]
https://biologos.org/personal-stories/confessions-of-a-failed-young-earth-creationist/ [someone’s personal account; anti]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism
Theistic evolution
https://biologos.org/articles/series/science-and-the-bible/theistic-evolution-history-and-beliefs
Day-age creation
http://www.religionfacts.com/day-age-creationism
Gap creationism
https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_654.cfm
Teleology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleological_argument [definition]
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/teleological-arguments/ [article describing various needs in the
teleological argument for the existence of God]
Divine actions
https://www.theopedia.com/divine-action [definition]
Ken Ham
https://answersingenesis.org/bios/ken-ham/ [in support of his ideologies]
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/a-giant-ark-is-just-the-start-these-creationists-have-a-bigger-plan-for-recruiting-new-believers/2017/05/24/b497bd14-2920-11e7-be51-b3fc6ff7faee_story.html
Heliocentric
https://www.britannica.com/science/heliocentrism
Stories
St. Agustine stealing pears
https://augustinianvocations.org/blog-archive/2017/1/19/st-augustine-and-the-pear-tree-a-lasting-story
Luther quote of adam sinning
https://lutheranreformation.org/get-involved/bible-study-luther-genesis-37-15/
Story from Book of Joshua (sun held in sky)
https://www.sefaria.org/Joshua.10?lang=bi [Joshua 10:12 quote]
https://www.timesofisrael.com/3224-years-later-scientists-see-first-ever-recorded-eclipse-in-joshuas-battle/ [was it really an eclipse?]
Talmud matchmaking
https://www.sefaria.org/Bereishit_Rabbah.68.4?lang=en [Quote from Genesis midrash, 68:4]

Wednesday Nov 20, 2019
Evolution Part 2 (Increasingly More Complicated Tubes)
Wednesday Nov 20, 2019
Wednesday Nov 20, 2019
Episode 16So what is evolution exactly? How would you explain it to someone who doesn't think they are "good at science"? Can we see evolution happening today? Should we be worried about mutant Vikings and hybrid coyotes?
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Show Notes
Kleptoplasty Sea Slug:
https://manoa.hawaii.edu/exploringourfluidearth/biological/aquatic-plants-and-algae/structure-and-function/weird-science-kleptoplasty
Al regel achat: while standing on one foot--story explanation (and how it is used in modern Hebrew)
https://www.haaretz.com/word-of-the-day-al-regel-akhat-1.5318459
Elephants adapting to be tuskless
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2018/11/wildlife-watch-news-tuskless-elephants-behavior-change/
Peppered Moths of London
http://www.mothscount.org/text/63/peppered_moth_and_natural_selection.html
Chicken or Egg…first the egg!
https://www.science.org.au/curious/earth-environment/which-came-first-chicken-or-egg
We don’t understand big numbers
https://waitbutwhy.com/2014/11/1000000-grahams-number.html
Coywolf (or wolfoyte if preferred)
https://www.earthtouchnews.com/natural-world/animal-behaviour/is-this-coyote-wolf-hybrid-taking-over-north-america/
Worm composting
http://www.franklincountywastedistrict.org/vermicomposting.html
Zack's Worm Bin
https://amzn.to/330caxl
Lactose tolerance or intolerance, who’s the mutant now?
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/12/27/168144785/an-evolutionary-whodunit-how-did-humans-develop-lactose-tolerance
And this one has a map: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn27938-everything-you-need-to-know-about-lactose-intolerance/
Reading up on evolution
https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/resourcelibrary.php
https://www.yourgenome.org/facts/what-is-evolution
Video on natural selection (Crash Course):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTftyFboC_M&list=PL3EED4C1D684D3ADF&index=14
Video on evolution (Crash Course)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3GagfbA2vo&list=PL3EED4C1D684D3ADF&index=20
History of language evolution
http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?ParagraphID=axx
Or a TED-ed short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWDKsHm6gTA
Word by Word: The Secret Life of Dictionaries by Kory Stamper (Kindle Edition)
https://amzn.to/2O4ekYo
Because Internet: Understanding the New Rules of Language by Gretchen McCulloch (Kindle Edition)
https://amzn.to/33YQN0G
A forest of language trees, showing their relationships:
https://eurotalk.com/blog/2015/06/03/the-language-forest-how-are-world-languages-related/
Darwin
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Charles-Darwin

Wednesday Nov 13, 2019
Evolution Part 1 (The Dogs They Are a-Changin')
Wednesday Nov 13, 2019
Wednesday Nov 13, 2019
Episode 15
As we begin our first evolution miniseries, our hosts take some time to discuss why this topic has become so central to the "religion vs science" conflict and why it matters to us. How do we reconcile a sovereign God with the randomness of natural selection? Can we find meaning through science or only facts? Who ever thought that breeding pugs was a good idea?
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Show Notes
Favorite fruits
Kiwiberries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actinidia_arguta
Watermelon [and how they’ve changed in the last few centuries]
https://www.vox.com /2015/7/28/9050469/watermelon-breeding-paintings
Banana [other fruits talked about too]
https://www.sciencealert.com/fruits-vegetables-before-domestication-photos-genetically-modified-food-natural
Threat to the cavendish: https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/22/africa/banana-panama-disease/index.html
Strawberries [a brief history]
https://www.uvm.edu/vtvegandberry/factsheets/strawberryhistory.html
Dogs
Labradoodle Regrets:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/us/labradoodle-creator-regret.html
French Bulldog insemination
https://www.frenchie.shop/blogs/frenchie-shop-blog/do-french-bulldogs-have-to-be-artificially-inseminated [pro-Frenchie site]
https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/03/30/25974515/your-french-bulldog-is-an-abomination [biased against them]
Pugs
https://www.petmd.com/dog/breeds/c_dg_pug [Note the medical issues associated with them]
Theistic evolution
https://biologos.org/articles/theistic-evolution-history-and-beliefs
Theodicy
In-depth philosophy article
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/evil/
General definitions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicy
https://www.britannica.com/topic/theodicy-theology
Pardes
An explanation and experience: https://onbeing.org/blog/the-spaces-between-the-consonants/

Wednesday Nov 06, 2019
Church and State Part 5 (Give Satan a Chance)
Wednesday Nov 06, 2019
Wednesday Nov 06, 2019
Episode 14
In this episode, our hosts take you on a tour of the bizarre and often misunderstood world of the Satanic Temple and their efforts to fight for religious freedom. What role do satirical religions play in our modern world, and should they be treated like traditional religions? Can we create an organization for secular humanists that has the benefits of religion without a deity?
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Show Notes:
Our opening question about our favorite tricksters:
Ian: Loki:
https://norse-mythology.org/gods-and-creatures/the-aesir-gods-and-goddesses/loki/
Rachael: Loki and Puck: analysis of Puck
https://www.thoughtco.com/character-analysis-puck-midsummer-nights-dream-2984577
Zack: Benjamin Linus from Lost :
https://lostpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Benjamin_Linus
Adam: Dolos [I don’t love using wiki, but I just couldn’t find anything meaningful elsewhere]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolos_(mythology)
Kendra: Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer
https://buffy.fandom.com/wiki/Spike
The Satanic Temple
https://thesatanictemple.com/
It’s not the Church of Satan:
https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/what-is-the-difference-between-the-satanic-temple-and-the-church-of-satan
Article on the documentary, Hail Satan?, produced this year
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-49392867
[if you want another article, explaining the documentary director idea that highlights what we spoke about regarding community and the search for meaning]
https://www.wired.com/2019/05/geeks-guide-hail-satan/
List of approved religions in the American military: you will notice neither Pastafarian nor The Satanic Temple are listed.There are over 210 religious affiliations listed as of 2017.
http://americanhumanist.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Faith-and-Belief-Codes-for-Reporting-Personnel-Data-of-Service-Members.pdf
Durkheim and religion
http://durkheim.uchicago.edu/Summaries/forms.html#pgfId=6212
Durkheim and philosophy as religion (slightly different take than the above citation)
https://www.iep.utm.edu/durkheim/#H4
Mircea Eliade and religion
https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Mircea_Eliade#Contribution_to_the_study_of_religion
[or from britannica, but I found this explanation to a bit more dense]
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mircea-Eliade#ref274286
Is Buddhism a religion?
https://bigthink.com/21st-century-spirituality/is-buddhism-a-religion
John Oliver and debt collecting
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/john-oliver-buys-15-million-of-medical-debt-for-60/?fbclid=IwAR0FBYs-n884jjIzwLQ1DotAVCEhn2bJRGc35hC2nR-BZzbRExRjQKJtCFI