December 4, 2019 Evolution Part 4 feat. Michael Zimmerman (We Don’t Need No Education)

Episode 18

Dr Michael Zimmerman sits down with us to discuss some of the work he has been doing around religion and evolution for the past several decades as we look at some of the cases being decided today. how do we reclaim the authority of experts? Can/should we teach some form of intelligent design in public schools? What is at stake in this discussion?

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produced by Zack Jackson
music by Zack Jackson and Barton Willis

 

Show Notes                 

Clergy letter project, founded by Michael Zimmerman

https://www.theclergyletterproject.org/ 

 

Court Cases / Board of Education rules

1981 Arkansas: McLean vs. Board of Education

https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4726786 

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mclean-v-arkansas.html 

2004 Wisconsin, Grantsburg

https://ncse.ngo/grantsburgs-third-try 

2005 Pennsylvania, Dover vs Kitzmiller  [teaching intelligent design as alternative] 

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/21/education/judge-rejects-teaching-intelligent-design.html 

1987 Louisiana; Edwards v. Aguillard [do not have to teach creationism in parallel to evolution]

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Edwards-v-Aguilard 

2008 Louisiana; “Science education act” 

http://www.legis.la.gov/Legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=503483&n=SB733%20Act%20473 

2019 Ohio Science bill

https://www.cleveland.com/open/2019/11/ohio-lawmakers-clear-bill-allowing-students-to-turn-in-inaccurate-work-in-name-of-religion-second-anti-science-bill-in-a-week.html 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ohio-school-religion-answers/ 

Various states/years

https://www.pewforum.org/2009/02/04/fighting-over-darwin-state-by-state/ 

 

Definitions/People

Stephen Jay Gould

https://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/21/us/stephen-jay-gould-60-is-dead-enlivened-evolutionary-theory.html 

Intelligent Design

https://intelligentdesign.org/whatisid/  [pro]

https://web.archive.org/web/20021113213410/http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2002/1106id2.shtml [against] 

Irreducible Complexity

https://www.asa3.org/ASA/education/origins/ic-cr.htm [pro]

http://www.talkreason.org/articles/Suboptimal.cfm [against]

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2005/05/30/devolution-2 [against]

http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/design2/article.html [invoking the flagellum]

God of the gaps

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps 

Ship of Theseus 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus